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Dark Cloud

Posted 5/14/2005 11:31 AM (#1534)
Subject: LA Times Article and reaction

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-offroad8may08,1,7172514.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

and these responses:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-le-offroad13.1may13,1,6619402.story

the 'few bad apples' routine has worn thin and out.

go_buffs

Posted 5/17/2005 9:11 PM (#1537 - in reply to #1534)
Subject: RE: LA Times Article and reaction

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Thanks. I checked this out. I'm almost afraid to confront tresspassers becauuse you never know what their gonna do these days. It seems like these so-called off-roaders are getting more and more violent in their quest for places to ride. Its a scary world when they start using violence against farmers and the police give them a slap on the wrist. Seems like the off-roaders got awful quiet on this forum since the last time I checked in. I'm sure they'd have some excuse for attacking a dairy farmer (he was blocking a public road across his pasture or something). What a crock.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-offroad8may08,0,5044393.story?coll=la-home-nation

Los Angeles Times - May 8, 2005

Two Visions of the Countryside Clash

· Across rural America, angry encounters between landowners and off-roaders get noisier in a fight over dwindling open space.

By Janet Wilson and Seema Mehta, Times Staff Writers

Ohio dairy farmer Frank Sutliff was grinding cattle feed when he saw them again: all-terrain vehicles shredding his alfalfa fields.

When he shouted to the riders over the engine whine that they were trespassing, they smashed him over the head, he said.

"I went down, and they just started in on me … hit me, kicked me, broke my leg," said Sutliff, 46. "I crawled into the truck, drove back to the house and dialed 911."

One man paid a $100 trespassing fine. Another spent five days in jail. All denied wrongdoing.

Nederland

Posted 5/19/2005 8:46 PM (#1538 - in reply to #1534)
Subject: RE: LA Times Article and reaction

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Posts: 235

Just get a gun. You have the right to use force against people who theaten you on your own proeprty. I have spoken to several members of Congress about the problem and that's exactly what they say. Private landowners have the right to protect their property even if it involves the use of guns against trespassers, according to the guys that make the laws.

Unfortunaletly, I'm afraid that these confrontatations will become more and more common with the current attitude of the extreme offroad community, and some of these yokels are armed.

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